diff --git a/include/armadillo_bits/Base_bones.hpp b/include/armadillo_bits/Base_bones.hpp
index 9c7e9ca5..8f1625ba 100644
--- a/include/armadillo_bits/Base_bones.hpp
+++ b/include/armadillo_bits/Base_bones.hpp
@@ -130,8 +130,8 @@ struct Base
   arma_frown("use .index_min() instead") inline elem_type min(uword& index_of_min_val) const;
   arma_frown("use .index_max() instead") inline elem_type max(uword& index_of_max_val) const;
   
-  arma_deprecated inline elem_type min(uword& row_of_min_val, uword& col_of_min_val) const;
-  arma_deprecated inline elem_type max(uword& row_of_max_val, uword& col_of_max_val) const;
+  arma_frown("use .index_min() with ind2sub() instead") inline elem_type min(uword& row_of_min_val, uword& col_of_min_val) const;
+  arma_frown("use .index_max() with ind2sub() instead") inline elem_type max(uword& row_of_max_val, uword& col_of_max_val) const;
   
   arma_warn_unused inline uword index_min() const;
   arma_warn_unused inline uword index_max() const;
diff --git a/include/armadillo_bits/Cube_bones.hpp b/include/armadillo_bits/Cube_bones.hpp
index 6227ce9c..ec452d33 100644
--- a/include/armadillo_bits/Cube_bones.hpp
+++ b/include/armadillo_bits/Cube_bones.hpp
@@ -390,8 +390,8 @@ class Cube : public BaseCube< eT, Cube<eT> >
   arma_frown("use .index_min() instead") inline eT min(uword& index_of_min_val) const;
   arma_frown("use .index_max() instead") inline eT max(uword& index_of_max_val) const;
   
-  arma_deprecated inline eT min(uword& row_of_min_val, uword& col_of_min_val, uword& slice_of_min_val) const;
-  arma_deprecated inline eT max(uword& row_of_max_val, uword& col_of_max_val, uword& slice_of_max_val) const;
+  arma_frown("use .index_min() with ind2sub() instead") inline eT min(uword& row_of_min_val, uword& col_of_min_val, uword& slice_of_min_val) const;
+  arma_frown("use .index_max() with ind2sub() instead") inline eT max(uword& row_of_max_val, uword& col_of_max_val, uword& slice_of_max_val) const;
   
   arma_cold inline bool save(const std::string   name, const file_type type = arma_binary) const;
   arma_cold inline bool save(const hdf5_name&    spec, const file_type type = hdf5_binary) const;
diff --git a/include/armadillo_bits/Mat_bones.hpp b/include/armadillo_bits/Mat_bones.hpp
index 69d92cf8..7ee55447 100644
--- a/include/armadillo_bits/Mat_bones.hpp
+++ b/include/armadillo_bits/Mat_bones.hpp
@@ -544,8 +544,8 @@ class Mat : public Base< eT, Mat<eT> >
   arma_frown("use .index_min() instead") inline eT min(uword& index_of_min_val) const;
   arma_frown("use .index_max() instead") inline eT max(uword& index_of_max_val) const;
   
-  arma_deprecated inline eT min(uword& row_of_min_val, uword& col_of_min_val) const;
-  arma_deprecated inline eT max(uword& row_of_max_val, uword& col_of_max_val) const;
+  arma_frown("use .index_min() with ind2sub() instead") inline eT min(uword& row_of_min_val, uword& col_of_min_val) const;
+  arma_frown("use .index_max() with ind2sub() instead") inline eT max(uword& row_of_max_val, uword& col_of_max_val) const;
   
   
   arma_cold inline bool save(const std::string   name, const file_type type = arma_binary) const;
diff --git a/include/armadillo_bits/SpBase_bones.hpp b/include/armadillo_bits/SpBase_bones.hpp
index 74ff3b46..677906be 100644
--- a/include/armadillo_bits/SpBase_bones.hpp
+++ b/include/armadillo_bits/SpBase_bones.hpp
@@ -79,8 +79,8 @@ struct SpBase
   arma_frown("use .index_min() instead") inline elem_type min(uword& index_of_min_val) const;
   arma_frown("use .index_max() instead") inline elem_type max(uword& index_of_max_val) const;
   
-  arma_deprecated inline elem_type min(uword& row_of_min_val, uword& col_of_min_val) const;
-  arma_deprecated inline elem_type max(uword& row_of_max_val, uword& col_of_max_val) const;
+  arma_frown("use .index_min() with ind2sub() instead") inline elem_type max(uword& row_of_max_val, uword& col_of_max_val) const;
+  arma_frown("use .index_max() with ind2sub() instead") inline elem_type min(uword& row_of_min_val, uword& col_of_min_val) const;
   
   arma_warn_unused inline uword index_min() const;
   arma_warn_unused inline uword index_max() const;